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CyberRob




PostSubject: Walkera 4#3B   Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:42 am

I just bought another Heli, this time a Walkera 4#3B, dual brushless with metal head. My Belt CP V2 is costing too much in repairs and I am struggling to find places to fly, I was thinking about the Esky Honey Bee FP but it still looked a bit large for indoor flight. I know the smaller the Heli the harder it is to fly but my theory is since I can fly indoors I will get alot more flight time. Should also be less prone to damage and repairs are cheaper as there are less parts to go wrong. Any one else got one of these, I am still learning to fly and any advise would be great.
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Donnie D

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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:32 am

I've heard they are good little helis but are a bit tough to fly. The only Walkera heli's I've owned were 2 Lama coax. Great little heli's until I finally beat them to death trying to learn to fly.

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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:52 am

They are apparently very twitchy but the v3 is apparently alot more stable. I will update when it gets delivered how it is to fly, if it is more difficult hopefully I will find it easier to fly my belt cp v2.
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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:37 am

Yeah, please keep us posted. It is a really neat looking little heli.

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PostSubject: walkers43b   Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:34 pm

Hi this is pat, I have a lama2 micro and it is the most monuvorable heli I have ever flown, watch on bannahobby with Pete flying it , it was every thing he said and more maybe if you look at this sight and scrool down on the 43b he might be flying one, mybe this will help I watch him fly as many as I can one of the only one,s that fly 3d on screen on that sight it kinda answers alot of my questions, just my opinion Pat :bigthumb:
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:24 pm

Received the Helicopter today, came with a european plug instead of UK but thats probably to be expected when you order from China. No worries I had an adapter so managed to get it charged without an issue. First few (attempted) flights were difficult as it is badly affected by ground effect and has a tendency to want to drift left.

But so long as you get it in the air quickly it is actually very stable, I don't know if its just easier because you don't have to worry about the wind but it hovers very well. I did find that you need to be on top of the throttle as it will climb and drop without adjusting the throttle.

I have already crashed it several times (as expected) once off the ceiling then straight to the ground, I am flying in a room with plenty of couches and carpet floor but so far no damage (touch wood). All the screws that hold everything together are very very tiny so I might need to get some new tools to work on it. Parts seen cheap and easily available in the UK, especially because buzzflyer sell their own rebranded version of this so I can buy their parts if need be.

Mine also came with a spare set of blades for the head and tail, 2.4G tx, dual brushless motors (I hear the brushed ones can burn out quick) and an aluminium flight case, delivered from Hong kong it came to £120.

Although I assume this is more difficult to fly than the 450 I have with the crash resistance and fact I can fly indoors I am sure I will get a lot more flight time on it. This means that I should get some good learning on this helicopter before I trash my Belt CP V2.
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PostSubject: 4#3b   Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:28 pm

Iam glad its working pretty well, seems like you are already flying instead of trying to figure out how to make it fly at all, Iam pretty sure I will get one when I can, what do you think of the transmitter, and it sound like its pretty tough, just wonder way the power wanders that much, good luck and if you would keep me posted, thanks Pat :bigthumb:
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:19 pm

The transmitter is quite basic as it is only a 4 channel helicopter but is good enough quality. I have been flying it a bit more and have finally broke something, the tail mount broke, appears to be a weak spot on this helicopter there is an upgrade frame which addresses this and it only cost £5 for the stock replacement part. But I have just glued it back together which is holding out just fine, I will replace it when I have to replace something I can't glue back together. Biggest surprise is the blades are still going strong no damage at all!! I am very pleased with this little helicopter, hopefully once I learn to fly this I will be more confident with the Belt CP v2.
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PostSubject: walkers4#3   Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:23 pm

Thats good its seems to be working out, I was impressed with the blades too, the stock ones look different than the bulk ones, I think if we stay with the oem ones it will be ok the others they show says for walkers or hbfp and they look like the stuff that comes on the hbfp, which we know leaves a little to be desired, did you have to adjust the blades at all or did you have to revamp them like the ones that come on the hbfp just wondered good luck keep me posted on your progress, thanks Pat K
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:17 am

I have not had to adjust the blades yet, I have been told that they may need some adjustment over time, the helicopter flew straight out of the box with no adjustments. I have had to adjust the motor once after a nose dive into the carpet, the paddles need adjusted every crash but you just twist them back into place by hand and the tail motor some times separates looks fatal but it just slots back into place and the magnets hold it fine. I also had to glue the tail boom, I would maybe recommend gluing it from new as the screw causes it to split, I will do this when I replace that part.
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PostSubject: walkers4#3b   Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:52 am

That sounds good, keep me posted see how long it takes to end up with just a memory and pieces and that smile on your face, good luck. Pat K :clap: :prop:
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:24 am

Well the super glue is coming in very handy at the moment it is mostly the frame taking the damage, although a new frame is only £5 I might be tempted to buy an upgraded frame from MIA but it is about £25 so I will see how far I can get with the super glue on the stock frame first.
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:28 am

I have posted some pictures and info regarding the damage done so far on my website, you can have a look here: http://robertjohnforshaw.com/category/helicopters
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PostSubject: 4#3b   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:36 pm

The pictures are realy cool, I broke the front of my landing gear on my lama 2 which is just a coax version of yours, the coax is so stable you just put it up in the air, have a drink of coffee, watch tv, see where it is in the room and bring it back, fly around a little, take a break put in a new battery then raise some h11ll, cat leaves the room in a hurry, no papers left on anything, pretty much a lot of fun, fly nose in they kinda look like their watching you when you do that, send the heli on a cat mission, just fly bys don,t want to hurt the kitty, couple spot landings, most fun Ive had so far keep me posted tnanks> Pat :hahaha:
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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:47 pm

I've flown that heli and the own a mini spark at my office. Have fun fixing those things is all i have to say. I almost need a magnifying glass for some parts!
They break very easy, and if your just starting out like i was, lots of fixing and tinkering but thats the name of the game right? The only problem is how small the parts are. A piece like the rotor head pin. If you break or lose that have fun.... getting those c clamps on with the o rings between the CNC blade holders UHHHHGGG. If anybody has an easy way to put those c clamps around the pin, that would be awesome!
Anyways..
That was the only piece that was broken forever on my heli, and the cheapest, but for me, very hard to put back together.
Other than that, once you get em down, they are awesome to watch fly but i had to go to a larger heli myself to really get the grasp of it.
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:51 pm

Well it looks like the squash plate guide fix has not held so I have ordered a new frame which means a whole rebuild to replace it. I will shortly be getting an idea of how easy/difficult it will be to repair these miniture helicopters.
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PostSubject: walkera 4#3b   Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:14 am

Hey guys I went to staples and got a magnified, lighted, work light that attaches to your table and it has tensioned arms to hold position where ever you put it, it makes working on any heli so much easier, and then both your hands are free, medical supply store sell mineture hemastates and assorted tools for surgens, not cheap but its worth it sears also has a line of minuture tools that arn,t much, I think all in all these walkeras are a good value, parts are top notch instead of getting some of that stuff that is being copied out there, with these heli,s I stay with mostly oem parts because they fit and work right, just my opinion. Pat K :bigthumb:
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:41 pm

The tail motor has died, it kept falling apart and I just put it back together but this time it just shakes when I try to take off. I have decided to buy an upgraded motor from http://www.chinesejade.com/walkera.htm who appear to be very good value for spare parts. I have also decided to change the frame, canopy, tail boom, tail motor holder and battery holder at the same time since I am going to have to rebuild the whole thing anyway. I must admit I am surprised by the parts that have failed, the head, blades and landing gear are all still ok while strange parts like the anti-rotation guide and brushless motor have failed. I suppose motors are not uncommon just this is my first brushless one to fail on me.
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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:42 am

What do you think of one of these for the winter its very smooth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_A9K9D5jM
Dave orange78
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:05 am

I should really post a video of mine but I am sure you have seen plenty of helicopter crash videos before :) Looks like a good little flier, would be interesting to know how durable and easy to fix it is, I am just about to do a complete rebuild of mine with an upgraded tail motor.


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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:17 am

CyberRob wrote:
I can't make out what it is in the video looks like a good indoor size though, I should really post a video of mine but I am sure you have seen plenty of helicopter crash videos before :)

yep seen plenty of crashes and had plenty, its a Blade msr single rotor about 7.5 inches long.
Dave
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CyberRob




PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:27 am

Soz I edited my post as you were responding, I did not think to check the YouTube info before posting coz I am on my iPhone it does not display side by side the video. Looks a bit bigger than the walkera, I also notice you a better pilot than me as I cannot fly nose in let alone take off nose in.
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PostSubject: Re: Walkera 4#3B   Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:52 am

CyberRob wrote:
Soz I edited my post as you were responding, I did not think to check the YouTube info before posting coz I am on my iPhone it does not display side by side the video. Looks a bit bigger than the walkera, I also notice you a better pilot than me as I cannot fly nose in let alone take off nose in.

Every time you fly you learn something you just have to keep at it, the MSR is very easy to fly but it can also teach you a lot,
got to go to work now.
Dave
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PostSubject: 4#3b   Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:49 am

I have the walkera lama 2 coax palm sized, it is very stable a joy to fly and takes some of the stress out of flying, I now fly nose in and am vary at ease with this heli, see I am a ex archery competative shooter, not a want a be but acutaly sponsored by hoyt and easton, what I am trying to say one good flight where you have control and your minds eye can remember is worth more than all the crashes you will ever have why not fly something that is easy and fun while your mind and hands start to work together, just my opinion, good luck. Pat K PS that one perfectly made shot or that good flight will do more than you could imagine! :bigthumb:
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