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PostSubject: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:09 am

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Hi Nuttcaze, I've seen quite all of your Honey Bee's video but I didnt't find an answer for my problem..
May you take a look at my short video?

It seems that at the all the sticks limits there is a perpendicular component.
For Example aileron stick to the right, at limit switch the nose of helicopter will tilt upward.
Is it normal?

Thanks a lot

P.s. Sorry for my bad English

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:14 am

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Is the elevator servo moving when you move the aileron? If not check to make sure the swashplate hasn't come apart.

Is the same thing with the two servos.
If i tilt upward or down i have a right or left component..
I noticed this problem after my first flight... and first crash...
but I'm quite sure that out of the box there wasn't any difference.

In every case I've ordered a new swashplate
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:34 am

what about if you switched the servo plugs on the receiver? Plug the aileron where the elevator goes.

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:51 am

i'll try in a few minutes
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:58 am

no differences even with a brand new esky radio
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:09 am

hmmm, I suppose it might be a bad receiver but theres gotta be something else causing it, let me think a bit, there gotta be something I'm missing

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:37 am

Maybe I'm not seeing something I should, but if you push the stick forward, the swash tips forward and when you push it back, it tilts back. If you push it right, it tilts right and if you push it left it goes left. What is or isn't it doing? What you are describing and what it is doing in the video are not the same. The heli is sitting sideways, but after that, I'm not seeing what this thing is supposed to be doing. The heli doesn't care which way it is sitting or flying. If you tell it to go forward, the swash is going to tip forward no matter what orientation it is in.
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:08 am

ill'try to explain with a better video atomic
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:26 am

cool, that might help
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:30 pm

Here I am

New video with comment

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:41 pm

Alpha4 wrote:
Here I am

New video with comment


I think that is normal. Try it with main blades on. If I am missing something tell me noob
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:20 pm

wait, I think for some reason your servos are trying to lift the swashplate to high, I bet thats what it is. can you take a pic of your servo arms with the heli on and the cyclic trims in the middle? Theres something binding in the swashplate.


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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:21 pm

yes,sure!
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:34 pm

photos uploaded.

Click Here

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:46 pm

well those look fine, What about when you are at full forward or backwards, what does the swashplate look like then?
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:47 pm

wait 1 minute, new photos coming
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:52 pm

same link, two photos added
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:56 pm

does it do that with the main blades on? Also what does it look like if you're at full forward/backwards cyclic but with out the blades spinning?

And this is a prob that developed overnight, or did it get crashed?
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:01 pm

same thing even with main blades on.

Swashplat respect images: it's not totally centred
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:05 pm

so something is either broke or not installed right, what does it look like, anything out of place?
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:09 pm

no, it seem to be ok! it's just out of the box.
I bought it 3 days ago..

in 2 or 3 days should arrive a new swashplate and head set.
it's all brand new.. i don't now...
I'm noob ok, but this heli won't fly properly
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:14 pm

damn, I wish I still had a HBFP, then I could take pics showing what it should look like
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:15 pm

I'm trying to get some pics together of the head assembly for you

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:19 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:25 pm

fantastic, you are great!

Just 1 thing... I've bought it 3 days ago... I can try to send it back and change with a new one... I've to ask...
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:30 pm

I would def try, thats not right for it to act like that right from the box, even if it is something simple that we're overlooking, it should work properly, it might have got damaged during shipping, I know UPS like to play kick ball with my packages smiley-signs066 I hate UPS
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:51 pm

i'm of the same ideas, too strange..
It was too nervous, go ahead and it goes left, go back and it goes right...
Now I'm playing with a Lama V4.. and fly high

Damned UPS!!
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:31 pm

Hi. I recently bought a HBFP from buzzflyer, and it is the latest release (E500): it comes with 2.4 Ghz radio, digital servos and LiPo as stock.

I've made this test, and it does indeed "mix" the channels at full aileron (I didn't test with the elevator, though... I will do it this weekend and reply again), but I don't think that will be a problem at all, it hovers like a charm! I have made the Radd's lessons, and with 5 or 6 LiPos I was able to hover it pretty well. I had a little experience with helis, though: I have played a lot of heli games, I had a PicooZ, and I have played with the simulator a couple of times (Realflight G4)

Maybe this "mix" is necessary in extreme situations, because it is only noticeable at full aileron... sincerely I have never noticed it during flight!
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PostSubject: Re: Strange problem on honey bee FP   Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:08 pm

I don't know, but in extreme condition why controls should change?
Tomorrow (italy time) i'll try to fly...
to make it easyer to control I've changed the servo's hole..
In might help...
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