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blackrain0119

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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:29 am

If the nose goes to the left, you have to trim your rudder to right, if the heli goes to the left, trim your aileron to the right . At first, it's a little hard, Just make sure your flying the heli withe the tail in front of you, NOT THE NOSE! this way your heli will correspond with your transmitter. Like what Donnie d said, Google RADD school of flight, and you will be able to fly your heli in no time. Good luck !!!!
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:38 am

And go SLOW. Just learn to get a feel for the throttle and rudder by just spooling it up enough to get it light on the skids for the first battery or two. This will train your eyes, hands and brain on the throttle and rudder controls. Gives you a feel for those two things before you worry about cyclic. Don't even TRY to get into the air until you have practiced on this for at LEAST a couple of batts. I know you will think this is to slow, but trust me. If you go any faster, you're gonna CRASH. Also, limit your flights to about 6 or 7 minutes, so you don't over discharge your lipo. Let the batt cool down a few minutes before you recharge it.

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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:43 am

i totally agree with Donnie D. Just trust us in this forum you will be fine. Believe me, ive been there, Done that . Good luck!
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:39 am

i will put a video demonstration for you to check how my flying is, i felt good to upgrade to this heli, im coming from a coaxial one, a walkera 53-8 and i can hover it and control it very well :S

i will use a training kit definitely

thanks for your support and sorry if im being a "nuisance" itsok_170
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 12:03 pm

You go ahead and do that, so we can see how much you progressed from a coaxial to a 6 channel single rotor helicopter
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:38 pm

i got one more question i have REAL FLIGHT 4.5 and i want to set up my TX to work with this sim, is it possible???? o cant clear this :S
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:12 pm

no it's not . There's a serial number that your control loink needs to be validated. I have the 4.5 also
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PostSubject: Tail/nose drift   Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:47 pm

As far as the tail/nose drift goes I would recomend to NOT use trim on the TX to correct it!!! Some gyro's will not funtcion properly if you do, but some others will be but I still would make the adjustment to the tail servo..
What you do is, switch to RATE Hold mode for this!
Take the heli into a hoover, observe which way the nose drifts...
Land, if the nose goes left then you loosen the servo mount and slide the servo rearward, aVERY SMALL AMOUNT!!!! Go to a hoover once again, check for drift.. if it is still there go thru the steps again until you can bring heli to hover and there is no drift!!! It may take some time but it is well worth ther time.... switch back Heading Hold and rip the sky!!!
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:46 am

hmmm i got my "futaba" tx with the serial number but the cable is cut and i cant use it with this TX , i could start up my esky TX with real flight but the set up of the TX is wrong thats why i asked about this


I cant hover it because when i try to lift it up it goes to left side so i have to move the opposite way to balance that "unwanted" move, i guess it could be the gyro as im new on this type of helis, i dont know too much about how to set it up, im regarding info on the web to learn more about it but im still confused :S

i will try to record my flying experience for tomorrow thanks
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PostSubject: Spin   Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:04 pm

So lets see... Does the heli SPIN like uncontrolabilly when you try to lift off??? If so you may need to change the direction switch on the GYRO ITSELF.. Give that a try and see if that helps you some>>
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:41 am

hey guys im getting worst orange4
i have changed the main rotor for the CNC one but i couldnt change the tail one and now my heli spins :S

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and my blades are untracked :S one is higher than the other one

i dont think is the gyro because i havent move it yet it is as its original position and it didnt spins before i changed the full main rotor
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:04 am

Good thing you posted a video on your belt cp. Your problem is 100 % tail rotation. As far as your video, your tail is rotatin clockwise! That is Wrong! Itshould rotate counter clockwise. What you should do is loosen your tail box screws, also your tail struts, then push your tail boom forward then flip your belt on the tail gear shaft. then pull it back , n not too tight then tight all the screws back. It should take you 7 min to do it. . your gyro is perfectly fine. Goodluck and let me know. K?
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:24 am

as for the blade tracking, because you changed your rotor head, you hae to track your blades also. Now since you have a cnc head, your heli will fly so much better and more stable once your tracking is setup nice. Get a pitch gage than unplug your motor. Make sure you unplug your motor!! turn your tx, then turn your heli on. After initializing, set your throttle up to 50 percent, then flip your 3d switch mode set your gage to zero than insert it toyour bldes. Make sure you r pitch is at zero on both side then your blades will track nicely. For more info go to Nuttcazes video on under Exi 450, it shows there on how to track your blades. Good luck
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:25 am

thanks dude, Wink i tried to track my blades by readjusting the links and i think i got it ^^, the vibration disappear so now im gonna to disassembly my tail rotor again and twist the belt

hope to have time tomorrow to film my belt on air and show you the first issue

im really thankful with all of you orange74
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:39 am

No rpobs. Let us know how your doin with your cpv2
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:20 pm

blackrain0119 - Dude you rock orange74

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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:38 pm

Thanks Marc! Just trying to help whatever I can. Thanks for your. Kind comment.
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:20 pm

yo Eltoffer, That's good that you were able to track your blades, but i'd still recommend using the pitch gage. Yes the blades are tracking, but are you getting enough postive pitch and negative pitch? track your blades the right way by using the pitch gage. This way your heli is setup nice. Nuttcaze has a video on youtube, subscribe to his channel and you will see the cpv2 pitch setup Part 3. Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:39 am

Well in fact i have seen this vid ^^ and also have subscribed too, i cant track my blades with pitch gage since here in mexico havent found it yet, i will buy one from xheli

two news

one my friend has a belt cp too and we both have the same time on this hobby, about 3 months we started with coaxial ones

this is his vid, he had an accident while trying to get his first flight :S funny too orange73



please advise me, why his heli does that move???? he just pull up the throttle stick and the heli did that move and crashed :S



and this one is mine, please tell me what am i doing wrong

thanks i will try to get higher tomorrow
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:33 am

btw, if i have the stock TX, i wont be able to track my blades with a pitch gage isnt it??
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:48 am

you use the pitch guage to make sure the blades have no pitch on them at mid stick, watch this video for a better explanation of it


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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:48 am

yo Marc, Thanks for explaining that. It's so much easier rather than writing.
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:01 pm

belt CP's for $150
http://www.nitroplanes.com/20esbecpv26c.html

FYI.
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:14 pm

hi guys, i saw the 3° video from marc and i have noticed my control arms servos and links are not adjusted but my swashplate is leveled, here is a pic



the links on blue has different length compare to the INSTRUCTION MANUAL marks, so my servos marked on red are not at 90° but as it shows my swashplate is level, do i have to readujst the length of the links????

all my other links are perfectly adjusted

NOTE this values are from factory i havent changed any servo or link

thanks
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:45 pm

I would suggest adjusting the link. But befor you do that, take the servo arm out and make sure you level it 90 deg. Then you adjust your link. This way youLll have enought throw.
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PostSubject: Links   Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:17 pm

First thing I would do before anything is to measure all links and record the leigths, so if you encounter problems you can go back to your starting point. And just because the factory set it up does NOT mean it is right..
I don't have much experance with the belt but I would say you should start from scratch..Reset everything!!
Servo arms at 90' on the servo... push/pull rods the same exact leigth. those elbow arms you got circled in red level and everything else...
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:30 am

hi again, sorry for posting so much i still have many doubts orange54

i have reseted all my links and control servo arms, and i thought the heli had been adjusted but...

here is my heli on action

http://vimeo.com/5773289
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:08 am

Well finally i got it orange58 , i have set my belt cp so now my flying is much better

have a look i feel proud about myselft orange68

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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:51 am

eltoffer wrote:
Well finally i got it orange58 , i have set my belt cp so now my flying is much better

have a look i feel proud about myselft orange68


Bien hecho, paisano orange74

Seems you have the control on it, well done!

I'm still in the set up process like you (unfortunally not much time to dedicate on it tho).

Just a couple of questions: How did you set yout TX settings? I didnt try it yet but mine came from factory norm norm rev rev.

I checked Marc's video and use the same settings (rev norm rev norm). Are your settings the same like him?.

In the other hand: Did you check the balance of the blades (CoG)? Or you just go with them as they arrived from factory?. I am kinda confused with that and I do not want to remove the blades if it is not necesary.

Once I finally finish the setup, I'll strap it with a bench and try it first to see if the settings responds as must do.

Gracias, greetings.
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PostSubject: Re: E_Sky Belt CP   Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:02 am

welcome sign

jamas pense encontrarme a un latino ene ste foro y mucho menos mexicano :P

well my tx is not like marc's one mine is:

ail - norm
ele - rev
thr - norm
rud - rev

and works perfect

i havent balanced my blades, what i just did was (in that order):

1.- set servos arms at 90°
2.- set up my swashplate level at a 55% and horizontally
3.- align both paddles and set them horizontally (if necessary)
4.- set up the blades angle
5.- track blades (if necessary)
6.- set up the tail rotor

and thats all

if you want to learn how its not very hard if you go to the right place, it tooks me a while to understand and set it up, but i found a great pal on youtube, look for GONZOBEL and put AJUSTE or CALIBRAR i his channel and will find some interesting vids

nice flying
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