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hardfourteen

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PostSubject: Phantom vs Hawk   Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:18 am

Decided to try planks...Don't like high wing piper cub style so I have narrowed it to two: Opinions please as to which I should choose.
Hobbyzone Firebird Phantom: smaller and has Accident Prevention Technology (ACT)

Wild Hawk: Bigger and easy to repair but no ACT.

OPINIONS please! orange67
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:01 am

I actually got the Wild hawk two weeks ago. It took me about 10 tries to get it to fly.

Over all great park flyer. I do recommend the first mod you do it extend the rudder and the elevator. Stock is hard to control in my opinion. I noticed the plane does not turn left very well with full power to the motor so you need to lower throttle for a second when turning then punch it again.

I will be going brushless soon.

This is what I want as final setup.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3LjCRRpWbKA&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:34 pm

I don't have any experience with the WildHawk, but I do have a Phantom that I just bought two weeks ago. Here's my (newbie) feedback:

Setup: Very quick and easy. Basically, you attach the wing to the 'pod' using rubberbands, insert the landing gear (or not, if you're going to be hand launching), and charge the battery. That's it.

Flight characteristics: the plane basically flys itself, so it's very easy to keep in the air if/when you make a mistake and it's very easy to land . It's also surprisingly quick when you apply full throttle, which is a mixed blessing. I think it's very easy to have this plane get away from you if you're not careful. It definitely likes to climb, so if you're either at full throttle or flying into even a moderate breeze, it will go up, up, up. If you let it get too far downwind, you might find it difficult to bring it back. My first flight (featuring a light to moderate breeze) was a real adventure because of this. The manufacturers warn you about wind, and now I know why. Also, I think the ACT sometimes is fooled by reflections, kicks in, and briefly interferes with my control, so there have been a few occasions when the plane didn't immediately respond to my inputs. Of course, you can always disable that feature.

Durability: So far, so good. I've only had one real crash -- clipped some playground equipment -- and the plane was undamaged.

Battery life: Seems a bit on the short side to me, but I haven't timed it yet. You can extend the flight time by shutting off the throttle and simply gliding. One nice feature is that if you hit the low-battery point during flight, the prop stops spinning but you still have control over the elevators, allowing you to glide it back to the ground.

Overall Impression: I don't know if I *love* the Phantom, but I like it. All in all, it's an easy way for a newbie to successfully get up in the air relatively quickly and cheaply (I paid $80 for mine from a local hobby shop, but I've seen them on the web for less than $60). I would buy one again. That being said, I would also consider the Firebird Freedom, which costs a bit more but has very attractive specs and is (I think) a suitable plane for new fliers.

Hope that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:21 pm

Leaning toward the Phantom, but did you ever notice when you start looking for "the first" plane - and having never flown before - that every plane is the best for a first plane, according to the ads, and forums tend to be split? If nothing else, it keeps me out of mischief trying to decide. Crazysmile
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:31 pm

Couldn't agree more! It's hard to avoid slipping into 'analysis paralysis' after awhile. orange54 I've decided that once I've narrowed a choice down to 2 or 3 solid finalists (based on others' guidance, my own needs, etc.), any one of them is probably going to work out just fine. That helps me to pull the trigger and get on with it. Whichever one you choose, I'm sure you'll have fun flying it. Let us know which way you go!
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PostSubject: Finally   Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:30 pm

After all the looking etc (and analysis paralysis) Reviews said the ACT on phantom doesn't kick in utnil 150 feet and can be fooled by reflections etc so I was looking at Sky Fly 2 or Wild Hawk. I went to a local club. After they decided there was something wrong with me for not wanting a high-wing trainer I decided to try the Sky Fly 2...Haven't had a chance to fly (?)it yet but lots of offers of help to learn...Damage to box and slight ding on a wing (somebody was careless in shipping) gave me a GREAT price and ready access to parts. As soon as the weather quits I will give it a try. Standard on reviews: 50/50 love hate...
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:01 am

Hey guys,

I have experience in this area...
First ask yourself if you are a quick learner and a little amped up.
Or a slow learner and like things a little slow and casual.

Point being I spent way to much money because I didnt ask myself
these q's and bought trainers. Well I am a amped up guy and trainers
dont go were you point them without taking there time. Usually time is up
before the plane got there.

If you plan on floating around the feild and haveing a easy going flight
get a trainer. If you are like me and drool over fly'n upside down, sideways,
flips,rolls and going fast....well you need a sport plane!

The plane I learned the most on and still fly today (the only plane I will fly) is
A Phase3 fantom jet.

Now I know you are saying" JET your crazy" but they are a great trainer. At least
this one is, most others I wouldnt recomend. This thing fly's soooo slow and it will
belly land so perfect on the grass. Yet it will crank out 80mph speeds and roll so
fast you get dizzy.

I get 10 min. full throttle on 2200 lipo.



I have converted mine to a pusher prop.
Another good one is a hobbyzone stryker...



I just mention this because I crashed every trainer I had and only untill I got the
phase3 fantom did I really learn how to fly. With a good radio you can dial in duel
rates and stuff to help you out...

Anyway my 2 cents.....
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:22 pm

hardfourteen, that Sky Fly 2 looks like a good choice. orange74 Curious to hear how you like it once you give it a go...

Suriano: you were right -- I initially thought you were crazy for suggesting jets! I've seen youtube vids of the hobbyzone stryker streaking across the sky and assumed that they def were not for newbies. But if they can also fly sloooooooowly w/o demanding too much of me, I'll have to put 'em on my '2nd plane' list. I do like to go fast orange71 Thanks for the input.
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:24 pm

Sanbonani00 wrote:
hardfourteen, that Sky Fly 2 looks like a good choice. orange74 Curious to hear how you like it once you give it a go...

Suriano: you were right -- I initially thought you were crazy for suggesting jets! I've seen youtube vids of the hobbyzone stryker streaking across the sky and assumed that they def were not for newbies. But if they can also fly sloooooooowly w/o demanding too much of me, I'll have to put 'em on my '2nd plane' list. I do like to go fast orange71 Thanks for the input.

If you would like to see how slow and easy one can fly I will have video taken
of my jet for you. Its no problem just let me know......
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:03 pm

yea man get a video takin id like to see it fly also

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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:57 pm

That'd be much appreciated. Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:50 pm

ParkZone T-28 is your best bet for any kind of 'real' plane that's trainer capable... It has ailerons and a rudder. It's also hard to outgrow, since it has a brushless motor, steerable nose gear, 15+ minute flights, lot's of maneuverability, etc.

Any other type of plane, such as the foam delta jet aforementioned, won't teach you much about flying. I'm not saying they're not stable aircraft or fly bad, because they don't, but it comes down to what you're looking for. Sunday evening fun flights, or intentions of getting into another hobby.
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PostSubject: Trainers   Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:15 pm

hardfourteen, Are you going to have someone train ya? or are going at it solo?
If ya are going at it alone I would rec the GWS Slowstick with a brushless setup.
this plane will fly itself man also ya can add alerons to it later and it will go along way
to teach you to fly for very little money.

sdjb
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:20 am

built a foam wing steve!!!

took all but 3 hours to built

go dollar tree and buy 3 piece of readiboard
http://www.dollartree.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&keyword=readi+board
total 3$

Nand bulit one of these




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PostSubject: Wing   Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:06 pm

Pete that is cool got the plans for that wing? We have dollartree store out going to check and see if they have the readiboard in stock. Nice flyin Bro you look like a pro in the vids Nice Very Nice.

Steve/sdjb
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PostSubject: Re: Phantom vs Hawk   Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:51 pm

THANKS!

heres the built thread by author

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1023254

2 set of plans 42 and 32

42 if a real floater if built lite and lite eletronic

32 is a zipper! zzips fast and all over

-pete

also while @ dollar tree, pic up a bottle of "AWESONME" cleaners

to help remove paper off readi board, you will understand when you watch author built bideo
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PostSubject: Sky Fly 2   Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:49 am

Bought it, crashed it, trimmed it, etc. FINALLY got it trimmed properly and to my surprise it flew just as advertised. BUT - and there always is one - I made a totally rookie mistake and flew into the sun...But - an ad in the paper and a fone call in reponse brought it home about 3 days later -NO damage about a mile away..
Haven't had a second day yet, but quite impressed.
Now I have the bug - I just bought a Eagle 2 40 size trainer ARF. By next spring I hope to have saved enough to equip it and local club has several instructors willing and able to help me learn. Still love the helis but I guess I have a bad addiction... :crylaugh:
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