Belt cp v2 or EXI 450?

Which would some of you reading this recommend? thought and opinions are greatly appreciated, andyes I have experience with 6ch CP Heli's :)

EXI def but if its your first 6 ch cp the belt cp parts are cheaper

hmmm.. Which has the better receiver? Also which is easier to maintain such as upgrade installment and part replacement? Can the EXI canopy be replaced with an Align 450 canopy like the cp?

Exi 450 is a direct clone of the trex 450. As far as upgrades, it's a lot easier to find the parts when you want to upgrade. But for the kit, you can actually get a cnc head ready for the kit for 49 bucks at xheli. As far as precise and stability, i would gor for exi. if you have never built a 6 channel helicopter, then i say go for the rtf beltcp.

I Have completely unassembled my walkera 36 and put on CNC head and tail upgrades so I mean I have some exp. with the layout and assembly. The 450 EXI also comes in RTF though and that looks promising!

Where did you find them RTF?

Xheli.com man they have the legend and genesis

exi is totally different thatn the blueray or the legend. they have different placement of the servos. the closest you can get is the blueray. the elevator servo is mounted on the front while the exi is at the back. if you buy the blueray, thats about 299 bucks, i would rather get a kit for 49 buckswhich comes with a cnc head and a fiberflass blades, not to mention the metal frame. and for the servo you can use tower pro for 4.95 each and your motor 3500 kv for 17 bucks esc 40 amp at hobbypartz 22 bucks, battery and a gyro. other thank that you're good to go. i would recommend getting a dx6i or dx7, it makes your setting up a lot easier.

Blackrain do you have a site you would suggest I go to to get the kit and electronics?

That type of setup is something that I would prefer doing after I've become more comfortable and know more about the hobby and know that I will stick with it. As for now I'm looking into RTF heli's, like the Belt cp or if their truely better heli's, the RTF EXI line(Blue-ray etc.)

ok . i think you're better off with the blueray. parts are 99 percent compatible with trex 450. Belt cp is good too, but the parts, you have to order it at the internet, while blueray is a lot more precise and has a very good stability (less slop) if you get the metal head version. And if you have a local hobby shop at your place, then it's a lot easier to get the parts, rather than waiting 5 days to get your parts through the mail. also, just understand the basic of how the heli works, then you will not have any problem building one. there's a lot of information here at the forum, also check nuttcaze's vid on how to build an exi. good luck bro. by the way, you can get the exi kit here

http://www.xheli.com/exial450ve2r.html

MikeysRC on YouTube has a great series of videos for how to buy and build an EXI450.

Do you know what a build like he did costs?

With the $44 Exceed RC 2.4 TX/RX, it was around $230. With the DX6i it's going to be more like $390.

He has it all listed in the details for that video I think.


Yeah, here it is:


"An introduction to a video series where you can learn how and where to buy all the parts to make a nice flying Trex 450 clone helicopter for only about $226. That includes EVERYTHING needed to fly.

EXI 450 helicopter http://www.xheli.com/exi450arfrar.html

2.4Ghz transmitter and receiver http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...(Mode_2)

Transmitter PDF manual
BAD LINK SORRY For now send an e-mail to mikey@mikeysRC.com and then I can e-mail you a copy. It's a three part PDF. Thanks.

Transmitter computer cable for WINDOWS 2000 or XP http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

Transmitter driver software
http://www.flysky-cn.com/pic/down/FS-...

4 servos http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

TeleBee heading hold gyro
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

2200mah 20C 11.1v li-po flight battery
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

Brushless ESC
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

Brushless motor
http://www.xheli.com/ek5-0005.html

SORRY I forgot to include a charger Here is one for $6.00 http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/st...

The video series will show you everything from where I got the parts, how to put it all together, how to set up the electronics and how to program the transmitter throttle / pitch curves, sub trims etc. "

thats alot cheaper than I thought.. nuttcaze had an idea that if I got the Belt cp that when I crach it just switch all the electronics over to that same exact kit

That's actually what I did.


I bought the 2.4ghz BeltCP, then when I crashed it (flight 3 ) I moved the power system over to the EXI 450. I had to buy a pinion gear, and different motor mount screws, but other than that everything worked out.

I don't know if you saw my recent videos in the Videos topic, but that is my current setup: EXI450 with Belt CP Power System.

so what would it be ? belt cp, EXI or blueray...

Take a look at this too, CopterX 450AE. Just ordered one of these, hopefully it should arrive soon

--==AxeL==-- wrote:

Take a look at this too, CopterX 450AE. Just ordered one of these, hopefully it should arrive soon

this is by far the best deal ive ever got. Ive got the exact copter x that i also ordered from hobbydaddy. Everything is metal from head, to tail, to frame and gear and shaft holder. bery nice heli.

Im going with the Belt! I did look at that copterX however that thing looks awesome, all aluminum and cnc! I wonder if when I crash my cp if the Parts will transfer over to the copter X just like they do to the EXI 450..

Also looking at converting the belt cpv2 into an exi. Can you give specifics on the pinion gear and the mounting screws needed and where to purchase.

Thanks
Jeff

You can also order RTF plastic or metal copterX

I just purchased my cp!! I will look into getting a kit of the copter X and switching all my electronics over to it once it totaled haha.

Owneroppie wrote:

Also looking at converting the belt cpv2 into an exi. Can you give specifics on the pinion gear and the mounting screws needed and where to purchase.

Thanks
Jeff

I think I used a 10T pinion but it might have been an 11T, you can get both from HeliDirect for $2

10t - $1.99 http://www.helidirect.com/rhino-gear-ultra-hardened-steel-pinion-10t-05m-23mm-p-7256.hdx

11t - $1.99 http://www.helidirect.com/rhino-gear-ultra-hardened-steel-pinion-11t-05m-23mm-p-7257.hdx

as far as screws, I used some that I had laying around so I'm no help there

does ne1 know witch spare part order for belt cp v2 whould contain the step washers and also thrust bearings are a standard size that all 450 size heli use.... feather shafts are prob all the same thickness im hopeing my LHS sells t-rex and blade 400 parts so does ne one think there thust bearings will work on my belt cp v2 i know the step washers from the blade 400 will fit so i asume the thrust bearings will fit too

How does the hbfp fly with CNC upgrades for the main rotor head? cnc swash,flybar control, and blade grips? There very expensive(20$ a part) so I was just seeing if anyone has any experience with using them on theirs.

im pretty sure it will fly so much better and less slop.

yeah I had another topic up under 4ch helicopters but no one was responding. thats what I figured but I just wanted to make sure. My old hbfp finally kicked the bucket :( so I was trying to decide wether to just buy new CNC upgrades or just get the new one, or BOTH! haha Nuttcase flies that new one so well it just made me have to have one. It looks so good and stable in the air! I was trying to find one without the transmitter so I could save about 30$ and just use the old one

get the hbfp v2.

i bought some of the cnc for the HBFP it does look nicer and fly better plus u don't really break ne parts except for the link push rods that cost 1 buck for a a pack of two